Today's photograph is of my husbands Uncle William Allardyce James Martin, who was known as Jimmy and it has quite a story attached to it! Jimmy was the oldest son of William Allardyce Martin and his wife Violet Helen Marguerite nee Murray. As I have written about previously (see here) I spent nearly twenty years researching the wrong William A. Martin and his family due to being given an incorrect primary source document. This year thanks to Barbara Cooper discovering my blog post and getting in touch with me I am finally researching the right family and working on some fascinating new leads!
More than this however Barbara has sent me three absolutely priceless, precious photographs of my husbands family that will be treasured by our family for generations to come. This photograph of Jimmy is one of the three and has been in Barbara and her family's, especially her late Mother's, safe keeping since the 1930's in England. Thanks to Barbara, it has now travelled to us here in Australia to be added to our family history collection and the collection of photographs that my sister-in-law has of her father's family. I cannot thank Barbara enough for her and her family looking after these photographs so well, for getting in touch with me and for sending the photographs to us, we are forever grateful and appreciative!
It turns out that my husband's Grandfather William Allardyce Martin was Barbara's Grandfather's cousin and when William and his family were going to Barrow in Furness from Malaya and Singapore it was to see his extended family who lived there (more to come on these newly found family connections in future blog posts). It was while my husband's Grandmother Violet Martin nee Murray and the children were in Barrow in Furness, England visiting in 1934 that Jimmy died. His death had a permanent adverse impact on the marriage of his parents and although they didn't divorce they did separate.
From my research I now know that Violet Martin and her sons William and Ronald departed from Penang, Malaya on the ship Chitral, arriving in Plymouth, England on the 4th January 1934. Their proposed address in the United Kingdom was 70 Thwaite Street, Barrow in Furness.
Tragedy struck soon after with Jimmy's death being registered in the March quarter in 1934.
More than this however Barbara has sent me three absolutely priceless, precious photographs of my husbands family that will be treasured by our family for generations to come. This photograph of Jimmy is one of the three and has been in Barbara and her family's, especially her late Mother's, safe keeping since the 1930's in England. Thanks to Barbara, it has now travelled to us here in Australia to be added to our family history collection and the collection of photographs that my sister-in-law has of her father's family. I cannot thank Barbara enough for her and her family looking after these photographs so well, for getting in touch with me and for sending the photographs to us, we are forever grateful and appreciative!
It turns out that my husband's Grandfather William Allardyce Martin was Barbara's Grandfather's cousin and when William and his family were going to Barrow in Furness from Malaya and Singapore it was to see his extended family who lived there (more to come on these newly found family connections in future blog posts). It was while my husband's Grandmother Violet Martin nee Murray and the children were in Barrow in Furness, England visiting in 1934 that Jimmy died. His death had a permanent adverse impact on the marriage of his parents and although they didn't divorce they did separate.
William Allardyce James Martin (b.1929-d.1934) known as Jimmy |
From my research I now know that Violet Martin and her sons William and Ronald departed from Penang, Malaya on the ship Chitral, arriving in Plymouth, England on the 4th January 1934. Their proposed address in the United Kingdom was 70 Thwaite Street, Barrow in Furness.
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Violet Martin
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1909
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival date: 4 Jan 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier
Ship Name: Chitral
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148861
Name: William Martin
Arrival Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1930
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival date: 4 Jan 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier
Ship Name: Chitral
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148861
Name: Ronald Martin
Arrival Age: 2
Birth Date: abt 1932
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival date: 4 Jan 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier
Ship Name: Chitral
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148861
Source: UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960. Retrieved from https://search.ancestry.com.au
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name William A J Martin
Death Age 5
Birth Date abt 1929
Registration Date Mar 1934
Registration district Barrow-in-Furness
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8e
Page 1097
Source: Record for William A.J. Martin. England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007. Retrieved from https://www.ancestry.com.au
The earliest arrival record in England that I can find for William Allardyce Martin after Jimmy's death is in February 1935 on board the ship Corfu, with his proposed address also being 70 Thwaite Street, Barrow in Furness.
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: William Martin
Arrival Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1901
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival date: 1 Feb 1935
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Bombay; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier
Ship Name: Corfu
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162643
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